strange preset for arch walls
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strange preset for arch walls
Hello,
I hope this is the right place for my topic.
Actually I started to play a bit with the arch workbench. If I want to create a wall from scratch I saw that the presettings for the wall are very strange
As shown in my attachement I got as preset a height of 30 km (30000 m) and a lenght of 2000 m. Furthermore the terms are swapped.
I expect that the thickness of a wall is the width ("Breite") and the length ("Länge") is the length of the wall. At the moment it is the other way around.
Can anybody please check and confirm this.
OS: Ubuntu 15.10
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.16.6055 (Git)
Build type: None
Branch: master
Hash: e71787d37adef54d19401330de5e3078c9debbeb
Python version: 2.7.10
Qt version: 4.8.6
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 6.8.0.oce-0.17
I hope this is the right place for my topic.
Actually I started to play a bit with the arch workbench. If I want to create a wall from scratch I saw that the presettings for the wall are very strange
As shown in my attachement I got as preset a height of 30 km (30000 m) and a lenght of 2000 m. Furthermore the terms are swapped.
I expect that the thickness of a wall is the width ("Breite") and the length ("Länge") is the length of the wall. At the moment it is the other way around.
Can anybody please check and confirm this.
OS: Ubuntu 15.10
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.16.6055 (Git)
Build type: None
Branch: master
Hash: e71787d37adef54d19401330de5e3078c9debbeb
Python version: 2.7.10
Qt version: 4.8.6
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 6.8.0.oce-0.17
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Re: strange preset for arch walls
The translations seem in the correct order to me (length, width,height). I don't know why your presets are like that, but you can change them in edit -> preferences -> arch
Re: strange preset for arch walls
Hello,
thanks for your reply. I changed the preferences in arc to 2500 mm height. Now my default wall is only 25 km tall
I assume there ist something wrong with the use of the decimal separator (in german it is the point where in the english langugage area it is the comma)
My personal point of view is that this wall has a height of 2500 mm, a length of 3000 mm and width of 100 mm. Maybe I am unique but I associate the width with the wall thickness.
thanks for your reply. I changed the preferences in arc to 2500 mm height. Now my default wall is only 25 km tall
I assume there ist something wrong with the use of the decimal separator (in german it is the point where in the english langugage area it is the comma)
Probably I expressed myself mistakable but it is not an translation issue. Please take a look at the attached picture. Beside the fact that the Length shows 0 mm which is obviously wrong (it is 100mm), would you say that this wall has a width of 3000 mm and a length of 100 mm?yorik wrote:The translations seem in the correct order to me (length, width,height)
My personal point of view is that this wall has a height of 2500 mm, a length of 3000 mm and width of 100 mm. Maybe I am unique but I associate the width with the wall thickness.
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Re: strange preset for arch walls
Hm there is something very wrong there indeed... Here for me all seems to work normally, though. What units scheme are you using? (preferences -> units)
The length = 0 is normal, when the wall is based on a line, the length property is not used. But it should be set correctly and not set to 0, I agree. This is done in git commit 19fd2c3
The length = 0 is normal, when the wall is based on a line, the length property is not used. But it should be set correctly and not set to 0, I agree. This is done in git commit 19fd2c3
Re: strange preset for arch walls
My unit system is metric in mm/kg/s/Grad (degree)yorik wrote:Hm there is something very wrong there indeed... Here for me all seems to work normally, though. What units scheme are you using? (preferences -> units)
As mentioned I tried this without any line/wire/sketch, just pressed the wall button and set it on the x/y-plane and give it a width respectively a length. By the way I have the same issues with windows. The preset size is 100m by 100m! Interestingly for stairs the preset works.yorik wrote:The length = 0 is normal, when the wall is based on a line, the length property is not used. But it should be set correctly and not set to 0, I agree. This is done in git commit 19fd2c3
My freecad info
OS: Ubuntu 15.10
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.16.6066 (Git)
Build type: None
Branch: master
Hash: 24c60199cce8c8def9b67d17cf7569b57fcb3aed
Python version: 2.7.10
Qt version: 4.8.6
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 6.8.0.oce-0.17
Re: strange preset for arch walls
As far as I am concerned to this thread I can add these contribution:
Although the program gets the right information
when opening the GUI the entry are completly nonsence
length 0 mm
width 200 m
height 30 Km
I purged the whole program three times and also all configuration.
I should mention that the program crashed several times and no lod did show why.
And from one time on no wall could be built any longer
when it was made one time before absolutely perfect.
When the wall should be built above one line from being made by scratch
it could not be seen, neither the line nor the wall,
A little help would make me absolutely happy :->
OS: Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch)
Word size of OS: 32-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 32-bit
Version: 0.15.4671 (Git)
Branch: releases/FreeCAD-0-15
Hash: 244b3aef360841646cbfe80a1b225c8b39c8380c
Python version: 2.7.10+
Qt version: 4.8.7
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 6.7.0
Although the program gets the right information
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if FreeCAD.GuiUp:
_ViewProviderWall(obj.ViewObject)
obj.ViewObject.ShapeColor = ArchCommands.getDefaultColor("Wall")
if baseobj:
obj.Base = baseobj
if face:
obj.Face = face
if length:
obj.Length = length
if width:
obj.Width = width
else:
obj.Width = p.GetFloat("WallWidth",200)
if height:
obj.Height = height
else:
obj.Height = p.GetFloat("WallHeight",3000)
obj.Align = align
if obj.Base and FreeCAD.GuiUp:
if Draft.getType(obj.Base) != "Space":
obj.Base.ViewObject.hide()
return obj
length 0 mm
width 200 m
height 30 Km
I purged the whole program three times and also all configuration.
I should mention that the program crashed several times and no lod did show why.
And from one time on no wall could be built any longer
when it was made one time before absolutely perfect.
When the wall should be built above one line from being made by scratch
it could not be seen, neither the line nor the wall,
A little help would make me absolutely happy :->
OS: Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch)
Word size of OS: 32-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 32-bit
Version: 0.15.4671 (Git)
Branch: releases/FreeCAD-0-15
Hash: 244b3aef360841646cbfe80a1b225c8b39c8380c
Python version: 2.7.10+
Qt version: 4.8.7
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 6.7.0
Last edited by DeepSOIC on Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: strange preset for arch walls
Looking at the printscreen you added I noticed that there seems to be a both decimal . (dot) and decimal , (comma) for the numbers. Maybe some language (locale) setting that is confusing things.jeno wrote:Actually I started to play a bit with the arch workbench. If I want to create a wall from scratch I saw that the presettings for the wall are very strange
Re: strange preset for arch walls
According the post of gleam it doesn't seem to be a locale problem.JAndersM wrote:Looking at the printscreen you added I noticed that there seems to be a both decimal . (dot) and decimal , (comma) for the numbers. Maybe some language (locale) setting that is confusing things.jeno wrote:Actually I started to play a bit with the arch workbench. If I want to create a wall from scratch I saw that the presettings for the wall are very strange
The dot (.) is the thousands digit and the comma (,) is the decimal point, which is usual setting for de-locale.
cheers
jeno
Re: strange preset for arch walls
Ok, just trying to figure out what is causing the problem.jeno wrote: The dot (.) is the thousands digit and the comma (,) is the decimal point, which is usual setting for de-locale.
Looking at your printscreen:
Point has Globales Y 365,(comma)00 mm
Optionen Wand has Länge 365.(dot)00 mm
That was what I thought was strange.
Re: strange preset for arch walls
good catch...didn't saw that until now
Should be in both cases a comma as decimal delimiter.
cheers
Should be in both cases a comma as decimal delimiter.
cheers