sgrogan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:00 pm
I will provide a portable build for this use case, that has the MSVC redistributable included.
You misunderstood me. Every user can install a program. Compared to a portable version this has the advantage that the file extensions are registered. So when double-clicking on a *.FCStd file, FC will open it.
To install only for the current users one just has to write into HKCU instead of HKLM. Therefore most installers have an option where you can say "install for all users" (NSIS supports this of course). If yes, the registry part HKLM will be used -> admin permissions are required and all users of the PC will get these settings. If no the program is only installed to HKCU. This has the advantage that no admin permissions are necessary and that other users are not bothered with the program.
For example my working laptop is used by different persons. Why should my colleagues see FC if they don't construct? So installing only for the current user can be very useful.
In short, if you want a Python 3 package, Debian Testing/Debian Unstable currently supprts side-by-side installation, but even there Python 3 is not default, you have to sudo apt install freecad freecad-python3 and then run sudo update-alternatives --config freecad and select the freecad-python3 option.
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uwestoehr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:41 pm
You misunderstood me. Every user can install a program.
The issue is that the FreeCAD installer runs the msvc redistributable installer that always requires admin. https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forum ... vclanguage
We use method 3 of the approved answer to get around this for the "daily" builds.
I think for an intalled version the user should be able to install the redist independent of FreeCAD. Maybe @ wmayer has some thoughts?
In short, if you want a Python 3 package, Debian Testing/Debian Unstable currently supprts side-by-side installation, but even there Python 3 is not default, you have to sudo apt install freecad freecad-python3 and then run sudo update-alternatives --config freecad and select the freecad-python3 option.
Sorry but i do not understand what you are writing.
Isn't Python 3 suppose to be the default for FreeCAD 0.18 or not?
Mark Szlazak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:24 pm
Sorry but i do not understand what you are writing.
Isn't Python 3 suppose to be the default for FreeCAD 0.18 or not?
It will depend on platform.
It seems your using the daily PPA. If so it's PY2. Consider this the end of the 0.18-dev cycle. The code matches the 0.18 release/stable.
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NormandC is packaging 0.18 for the stable PPA. Here PY2/PY3 should be available for >= Ubuntu 18.04. I agree that PY3 should be the default vs what is in Debian. Maybe join us in the other thread.
I will also create a Win Coordination thread to discuss the Win installer specifics.
sgrogan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:37 pm
The issue is that the FreeCAD installer runs the msvc redistributable installer that always requires admin.
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I think for an installed version the user should be able to install the redist independent of FreeCAD. Maybe @ wmayer has some thoughts?
We should not mix things up. If a user is not admin, the IT admins usually take care of such essential things like a MSVC runtime.
So when installing FC, the installer can check if MSVC runtime is installed, if not and if the user doesn't have admin permissions, it distributes the DLLs with FC. This is how I do it in the installer for LyX.
If you don't like this solution, then check if MSVC runtime is available, if not and the user has no admin permissions tell him that an admin must install the MSVC runtime separately. This is in my opinion unnecessarily complicated but in any case better than to leave non-admin users without FreeCAD.
