Yes it would hopefully have lines in the 3D view to represent what is being measured (such as delta x, delta y, delta z etc.)yorikvanhavre wrote:I have difficulties to totally imagine how would be the first tool... Would you just click 2 points, or an edge, and it would give you a length? But that would be just text output in the output window? Or would it involve displaying something in the 3D view? In that case how would it be different from tool 3? Or is it like the solidworks example, it draws a line and a dimension in the 3d view, but that vanishes as soon as you finish the tool? I'm not imagining something very kick-ass such as draw an actual ruler where you could count the millimeters (there is something like that in heekscad IIRC) or a protractor when measuring angles...
That seems to make sense to me. I think the current dimension tool in draft needs to reference actual parts of the geometry so it is more parametric and also accurate,and that would be a significant improvement.yorikvanhavre wrote:- P3 (a point through which the dimension line passes)
- Direction (the direction of the dimension line, this would allow us to measure a distance on any axis, for example the distance on the Y axis of 2 points that are not on the same Y axis)
- ObjectLink1 (a link to the first object to be measured)
- ObjectLink2 (a link to the second object to be measured)
- Element1 (the element of ObjectLink1 to be measured (Edge1, Face3, Vertex4,...). If the element is an edge or a face, its center point would be used )
- Element2 (the element of ObjectLink2 to be measured)
It would be helpful to have this somewhere else, so that it doesn't get lost in the forums in the distance future.jmaustpc wrote:would it be a good idea if I write a guide lines document (that you guys could modify) on the wiki or elsewhere that covers all of this?
In Soldiworks it simply shows the 3D components of the distance and the overall distance between the set of points.normandc wrote:Measurement should not be only about linear distance, but about any type of measurement: angle between 2 edges or planes, minimum distance between two surfaces, a few others that I don't recall ATM. Persistence is irrelevant to measurement, although the measurement history like in the SW 2013 video would be a great plus. You use the measurement as a temporary tool, it shows a visual cue (line between selected vertices, arc between edges/planes for an angle query) and vanishes when you're done with the tool. It is like working in any shop when you take your tape measure or protractor to check on some distance or angle. I use measurements extensively.
True, there are lots of things to consider in this and will require considerable effort to get up to the standards.normandc wrote:If you want a measurement to be permanent, it's a dimension you should be using. About dimensions on a 3D model, they could be part of a wider set of attributes which is sometimes called PMI for product manufacturing information. I think this naming scheme comes from Siemens PLM (formerly UGS) but there is something to this effect in the ISO 10303 (STEP) standard.
I think a task view would be better for this, since there are quite a lot of properties that would need to be assigned.normandc wrote:So what I'm saying is we need some kind of "measurements" toolbar or workbench with these measurement tools (the two I mentioned in addition to the linear distance measurement tool), and a PMI toolbar, or for starters a Dimensions toolbar, since a full PMI toolbar may be a big job to implement.