Optionally make reference lines visible.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
Sketch can have real points now so placing those at the ends of construction lines could help in this case.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
I also found myself needing this many times. I think it would be a good idea to optionally allow construction lines to be visible when the sketch is closed as well. Having a second sketch for this works, and adding points onto the end of construction geometry kinda works as well, but I don't yet see why making construction geometry visible outside the sketch would hurt.
Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
It's a different paradigm. Now you can reference only real geometry and that's it. If you want to use construction stuff make it real geometry and use it as master sketch.Chrismettal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:35 am but I don't yet see why making construction geometry visible outside the sketch would hurt.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
A sketcher is not a drawing tool.Chrismettal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:35 ambut I don't yet see why making construction geometry visible outside the sketch would hurt.
In first place it is a tool to arrange 2D geometry in order to create open or closed contours to generate solid or face objects.
Nevertheless it can be use for basic assembly or kinematic tasks via master sketch and derived sketches.
For 2D only drawing/drafting tasks the Draft WB is a better choice.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
I get that. Still, a common workflow is that one or multiple sketches will include construction geometry of mechanical parts that need to be worked around. They are construction geometry so they can be used for constraints. They might even be parametric so the whole model will be made wider after the "PcbWidth" parameter changed. A sketch like this would often be kept visible so you visually see your actual mechanical constraints at all times.
I know, adding a seperate body for that mechanical constraint works. Or a draft. Or a seperate sketch. But why not at least have the option of having construction geometry shown? Would save me a few extra bodies/sketches in most of the projects I do.
Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
Can you upload a model where this can be seen on a practical use case? From the discussion here I can see only little advantage, but I see that it would make things less clear, where clarity is a valuable good.Chrismettal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:51 pm But why not at least have the option of having construction geometry shown? Would save me a few extra bodies/sketches in most of the projects I do.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
When I originally posted, I was expecting to find an advanced option in the view tab of the sketch to show the construction lines. Nothing more is needed. No toolbar button, context menu, or anything. In cases like the layout I was building it would have been handy. I found a work around so it isn't a must-have feature but if enabling visibility through a view provider option is possible, why not?chrisb wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:39 pmCan you upload a model where this can be seen on a practical use case? From the discussion here I can see only little advantage, but I see that it would make things less clear, where clarity is a valuable good.Chrismettal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:51 pm But why not at least have the option of having construction geometry shown? Would save me a few extra bodies/sketches in most of the projects I do.
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Re: Optionally make reference lines visible.
Construction geometries are not included in the sketch's Shape property and they should not ever be. Is it possible to have a constuctionShape property and make it displayed (with different color IMO) and properly selectable in the 3d view? If answer is not, feature proposal can be discarded IMO, if yes, we'll have to wait for someone with the know how and desire to code all that.