fast workflow to create walls with MEP openings

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Re: fast workflow to create walls with MEP openings

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You can also work with clones of sketches. That may be a useful approach if many of the holes have standard dimensions.
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Roy_043 wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:31 am You can also work with clones of sketches. That may be a useful approach if many of the holes have standard dimensions.
Is the following your common workflow with clones? ... If you use clones you use the base nowhere and you do only use the clones?
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Roy_043 wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:38 am
  1. Create an Arch_Wall by clicking two points.
  2. Since the wall trace is a sketch with a single line there is no need to make the sketch visible.
  3. Create an empty "Hole" sketch.
  4. Click in the Map Mode field of the "hole" sketch and press the "..." button.
  5. Select the Wall trace in the tree.
  6. Add ":Edge1" to the first field in the task panel.
  7. Change the "Around y-axis" field to 90°.
  8. Press "OK".
  9. Edit the "Hole" sketch.
  10. Part_Extrude the holes.
  11. Arch_Remove the holes from the wall.
great explanation :D I had to do it slightly different to get it working ...
  1. Create an Arch_Wall by clicking two points.
  2. Since the wall trace is a sketch with a single line there is no need to make the sketch visible.
  3. Select the wall trace in the tree
  4. Create a sketch.
  5. in map mode pop up click deactivated
  6. close sketch
  7. Select the sketch in the tree
  8. Click in the Map Mode field of the "hole" sketch and press the "..." button.
  9. Add ":Edge1" to the first field in the task panel.
  10. in Attachment mode: select Normal to edge
  11. in Attachement Offset: Change the "Around y-axis" field to 90°.
  12. Press "OK".
  13. Edit the "Hole" sketch.
  14. Part_Extrude the holes.
  15. Arch_Remove the holes from the wall.
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Re: fast workflow to create walls with MEP openings

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bernd wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:14 am I had to do it slightly different
OK I see that I have skipped 2 steps. But you have two steps that can be avoided (#3 and #5) and you are also skipping at least one step (after #8). Just sayin'. :mrgreen:
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Thank you @Roy_043 and @Bernd for this workflow :D
IMHO these are definitely the everyday helpers that allow you to use FreeCAD in a professional environment.
Cheers!
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Roy_043 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:50 am
bernd wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:14 am I had to do it slightly different
OK I see that I have skipped 2 steps. But you have two steps that can be avoided (#3 and #5) and you are also skipping at least one step (after #8). Just sayin'. :mrgreen:
yep yor are right ... 8-)
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balrobs wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:24 am Thank you @Roy_043 and @Bernd for this workflow :D
IMHO these are definitely the everyday helpers that allow you to use FreeCAD in a professional environment.
Cheers!
For thei we would need to make a new tool out of workflow presetet. Just select a sketch and a wall, click the tool and whoom done. Would be not to difficault.

Another possibility could be to extend the existing minus tool to work with sketches, but since this workflow is based on the wall trace and not the wall this could make problems ...

@Roy_043:
Which way would you prefere if this workflow should be simplificated by some tool?
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balrobs wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:24 am Thank you @Roy_043 and @Bernd for this workflow :D
IMHO these are definitely the everyday helpers that allow you to use FreeCAD in a professional environment.
Cheers!
There was a simple Macro

EDIT ( link to more recent post with updated Macro)
Macro to Attach Normal to Edge

I planned to incorporate that in the experimental SketchArch add-on to become one of the available attachment mode options :)
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Re: fast workflow to create walls with MEP openings

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My first thought was to look at a hole as a special kind of window. Linking holes and pipes seems like a good idea, but is probably complex. But it is hard for me to judge the current development of the Arch WB. Paullee and Carlopav are independently working on experimental features and I have not been following those.
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Re: fast workflow to create walls with MEP openings

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It seem currently Arch has only very basic Pipe tool at the moment :)

Maybe Pipe object should have a Host, and works similarly like Window has a Wall as Host and punch hole in the Wall ?

MEP should have more tools like ventilation duct, cable tray etc. ?
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