Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator And Panelizer macro

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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby bill » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:39 pm

hhassey wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:29 pm
bitacovir wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:43 am
I think you could work with two categories. Simple Frame (non-structural wall) and Structural Frame (load-bearing wall).
The Structural Frame could start considering Header Beams for the openings and some double edit:(jack or jacking) studs.

Thanks bitacovir That is exactly what's on my plans, another boolean switch for structural, If turned on it will place those headers on, it will let you choose if yo want the studs of the header in a box configuration or an I beam. but for now, I am working on the FEM side.

So many things to do. But I believe that being steel studs the way most developed nations build, having a good steel stud frame support from FreeCAD could help a lot of more people adopt it for Architectural work. We will get there, just be patient.
FEM analysis is nice but probably overkill for most users; but nice to have to visualize things for the engineering impaired who cant read a load chart or spreadsheet analysis. The most value here lies in the title subject: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro; Steel, wood, or Composite doesnt really matter if designed safely!
hhassey wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:08 am
, we are trying to make software, that creates "any" frame which can then be tested
P.S. Additionally, Wow, I was not aware software was being developed in this forum!

I didnt miss any point: The header support/jack studs appeared in early pics then disappeared. A comprehensive example (load/non-load bearing) would have answered all my questions.

DE NADA

Additionally, bravo bitacovir!

Who is the moderator of this ArchForum? Speak up already; please!
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby Kunda1 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:14 pm

I don't see how this type of attitude supports creativity. Please modify your approach or opt out of the thread silently
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby bitacovir » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:54 pm

Kunda1 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:03 pm
Imagine one day a FEM switch that will be prevalent throughout most/all of the FC interface.

Would you like to run a Finite Element Ananlysis on this?
I think that is not the future. One day an AI inside FreeCAD will say...

Should I run a Finite Element Ananlysis on this for you?
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby Kunda1 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:45 pm

bitacovir wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:54 pm
Kunda1 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:03 pm
Imagine one day a FEM switch that will be prevalent throughout most/all of the FC interface.

Would you like to run a Finite Element Ananlysis on this?
I think that is not the future. One day an AI inside FreeCAD will say...

Should I run a Finite Element Ananlysis on this for you?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby hhassey » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:59 am

thschrader wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:33 am
Humberto,
can you post your file from your FEM-example above?
Delete the results, right-click on Mesh in model-tree ==> clear-mesh
That reduces the file size.
Thomas
Sure Thomas, unfortunately I did not save that file, but I will recreate it for you, tomorrow I am out of town so as soon as I have some time, I will do it for you.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby yorik » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:36 pm

hhassey wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:29 pm
So many things to do. But I believe that being steel studs the way most developed nations build, having a good steel stud frame support from FreeCAD could help a lot of more people adopt it for Architectural work. We will get there, just be patient.
Don't forget the FreeCAD motto: "It's done when it's done" ;) That's one of the coolest things of working with FreeCAD!
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby regis » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:11 pm

After the rebar, this steel frame project is evolving at breakneck speeds. proud of it ;)
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby hhassey » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:53 pm

thschrader wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:33 am
Humberto,
can you post your file from your FEM-example above?
Delete the results, right-click on Mesh in model-tree ==> clear-mesh
That reduces the file size.
Thomas
Here is the frame Geometry for FEM for you to test.
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby thschrader » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:15 pm

hhassey wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:53 pm
Here is the frame Geometry for FEM for you to test.
Hi Humberto,
thanks for the file.
Please try the following:
Export the frame as step-file.
Open gmsh (doubleclick) directly from bin-folder.
Import frame-step-file, mesh it.
I allways got meshing errors (which where not shown when using gmsh in FC),
even when I pushed up the meshing to more than 3 mio elements... ;)
In my opnion the relationship between the global frame dimension and the profile-thickness is
far to high to get a good 3d-mesh. Maybe it is better to extract the profile-faces and use
a 2D-mesh with shells.
Thomas
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Re: Automatic Light Gauge Steel Frame Creator macro

Postby hhassey » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:38 am

The meshing process goes well with me, both in FreeCAD and in Gmsh, the FEA analysis gives results that pass the smell test.
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