Hi, I long want to report and discuss the captioned.
1) Feature Request - Identification of 'Inside / Outside' + Finishes & Material
Currently, an Arch Window / Door has not much distinction between either sides
The Opening Direction is not distinguished along this concept also - so Arc90 or Arc90Inv has provided no idea whether it is opened 'inward' or 'outward' (the hinge 'position' has to be taken into account to identify)
For a number of case, the facing material and finishes of a door 'inside' and 'outside' are different - e.g. outside wood veneer, inside paint.
For IGU, the inner glass pane and outer glass pane could be different
Sometime, the door frame material is slightly different too.
Suggestion:
There is indication of the window/door to distinguish one side from another
(For a door in the middle of a corridor, yes the concept of 'inside'/'outside' is not applicable, but it works for a lot of cases - inside a room out outside i.e. toward the corridor)
There could be input for Finishes & Materials for Door/Window Face (Inside/Outside), Frame etc.
I am not sure if different finishes/materials are part of IFC standards or how peoples need it and may deal with it.
This would also be ignored when drafting in AutoCAD, I would rather open a spreadsheet listing out all door / window and has a few column filling in their 'inward / inside' and 'outward / outside' finishes.
2) Bug - 'Hinge edge' is offset
The exact 'hinge' edge is selected on the underlying sketch - for one opening direction, the door /widow leaf is drawn correctly in 3d
Then, for its 'Inv' direction, as the door leaf has thickness but ArchWindow still use exactly the same edge in pivoting the door swing, the door leaf is superimposed into the door frame - see screencapture
(I have read ArchWindow.py code but far from figuring out exactly every details how it works...)
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Hi,
interesting discussion. I cannot offer you an immediate solution, but you are right...
About the different materials, with the Arch multimaterial now you have the possibility to fine-tune your window materials very finely (each component can have its own material, or you can make a multimaterial with "Glass Panel" or "Frame" names, which will be applied to all of that type. But it is true that there is currently nothing to work with "surface" materials. Eivind had started writing some concepts about extending that some time ago...
The opening direction is also something that indeed needs more work. Maybe we should just mirror the whole shape about its axis... I am also not very happy with the opening symbols yet, we need something much more practical and customizable... Plus, I would like to be able to also show things like hinges and handle
yorik wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:53 pm
About the different materials, with the Arch multimaterial now you have the possibility to fine-tune your window materials very finely (each component can have its own material, or you can make a multimaterial with "Glass Panel" or "Frame" names, which will be applied to all of that type...
Thanks, I definitely have read somewhere about this but can't figure out where now.
Hi, I have the same issue, after several atempts found a temporary fix.
In orden to have the door opened correctly, you have to place it from the face of the wall witch correspond to the "inside" of the room. But only work if you open the door to the left, if you open it to the right, it Will show the elevación symbol incorrectly.
See image atached.
Hope it Is solved in the future.
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@Danielcaraj: Thanks for posting and bringing this topic to my attention.
The Inside-Outside distinction also applies to multimaterial wall compositions. And since the direction of the sketch determines how the multimaterial is applied, to the direction of the wall base sketch.
For a wall based on a CCW sketch 'loop' the material at the top of the multimaterial list will be on the outside.
yorik wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:58 pm
The symbol being placed at the top is definitely wrong, though Mind to share your FreeCAD file here so I can have a look and see what's buggy?