Moving window in a host moves the host

[Moult]

I have a very simple default window placed inside a wall as its host. I have the window selected in the tree. I have my working plane aligned to the wall that the window is placed in. If I use the move command to move the window, the entire wall moves with it. Is this expected behaviour? How do I _just_ move the window within the same wall?

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Note that If I move the window's _sketch_ (Sketch001), then the window moves as expected, and I can recompute the wall to update the penetration hole. This is desired behaviour (except for the need to recompute, which is a hassle).

Alternatively, I have found that I can unhost the window, move the window, and then rehost the window. It's slow, but it works.

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[vocx]

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If I use the move command to move the window, the entire wall moves with it. Is this expected behaviour?

I think this may be unexpected from a user's perspective. It may be a consequence of setting the Host property. In that case the Window becomes part of the Wall, so moving either will move the entire assembly. Maybe it could be considered normal, or maybe it could be improved to move the window only within the Host.

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How do I _just_ move the window within the same wall?

Note that If I move the window's _sketch_ (Sketch001), then the window moves as expected, and I can recompute the wall to update the penetration hole. This is desired behaviour (except for the need to recompute, which is a hassle).

Yes, you have to move the sketch. That's the "normal" way to do it, I think.

And yes, in past threads Yorik has admitted that there are some instances where changes in the elements don't trigger a recompute.

See for an example, [Bug] Arch Wall doesn't update itself when a Window is removed from it.

Also see the tutorial: Tutorial custom placing of windows and doors. It explains a bit about positioning the Arch Window object.

[Moult]

I see. I will move the sketch. This topic is solved. Thanks

[chrisb]

You can mark a topic by prepending [Solved] to the subject of the first post in the topic.

[bitacovir]

You can mark a topic by prepending [Solved] to the subject of the first post in the topic.

I did not know the post's author can/must do that. I thought it was the administrator's privilege.

[vocx]

I did not know the post's author can/must do that. I thought it was the administrator's privilege.

The author "can" change the first post title to add "Solved".

However, the author "must"? I don't think it's required.

Incidentally, once I asked a moderator to add "Solved" to a thread of which I wasn't the author, because the last post solved the issue. The moderator said, "nah, we don't do this here". LOL. It seems the policy changed recently, oh, well.

[paullee]

Different Findings ?

FreeCAD Version

FreeCAD_0.19-16694-Linux-Conda_Py3Qt5_glibc2.12-x86_64.AppImage on Fedora 29

Findings

1. Select the Window Object itself
2. Move the Window with Draft Move
3. Window object move as expected
4. The Host Wall does not move
   
   Alternatives Arrangement of Windows being 'Hosted'
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5. The default Window now has a Host properties and it is automatically set to the hosting wall if Window Gui is used
6. The 'old' behaviour is that the Wall has a Subtraction Property that Window is included
7. ( ... as Host property in window was not introduced.... and the relationship between parent and child is now inverted)
8. I clear up the Window Host property and add the Window in the Wall Subtration
9. Draft move the window
10. Still the Window object move but not the Wall object

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[yorik]

Definitely one should be able to move the window without moving the host wall

I've just recreated the same setup as yours @moult (a simple wall with a window inside), but everything seems to work normally... If you can reproduce it, mind to attach a file with the issue?

[Moult]

Attached.

1. Open file
2. Select window (not sketch or rectangle, but Window)
3. Draft move (M, V) the window to another location on the same wall
4. Tada: entire wall moves.

Removed "[SOLVED]" from topic as this issue is now unresolved again.

[yorik]

This time the baby is yours I'm afraid
it happens when the "Move Base" property of the wall is set to True