FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Post here for help on using FreeCAD's graphical user interface (GUI).
russ_hensel
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:34 am
Location: Dartmouth Mass, USA
Contact:

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby russ_hensel » Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am

cox wrote:
Sun May 01, 2016 7:19 pm
Pad and Pocket directly from a face.

This can be a huge time-saver, and the workflow is intuitive. It will probably take me some time to relearn this, as the sketch first approach has been etched in my brain.

Simply select a face and choose Pad or Pocket tool. :D

Screenshot_20160501_211325.png
this with the attachment: Pad and pocket directly from face.fcstd

So I downloaded this to see if I could learn some release .17. But I do not get it!

I thought both pad and pocket required a sketch but there seem to be no sketches in
sight.

So could someone tell me what I am missing?

My system:

My main computer environment is a Toshiba Satellite with 8 gig of memory and lots of disk. I have recently upgraded to Windows 10. I also run Virtual Box and have several virtual machines available, primarily Linux Ubuntu

OS: Windows 10
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.17.13522 (Git)
Build type: Release
Branch: releases/FreeCAD-0-17
Hash: 3bb5ff4e70c0c526f2d9dd69b1004155b2f527f2
Python version: 2.7.14
Qt version: 4.8.7
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 7.2.0
Locale: English/UnitedStates (en_US)


Under Virtual Box

Ubuntu
18.04 LTS
1.9 Gig Memory
22.1 Gig Disk

OS: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.17.13522 (Git) AppImage
Build type: None
Branch: releases/FreeCAD-0-17
Hash: 3bb5ff4e70c0c526f2d9dd69b1004155b2f527f2
Python version: 2.7.6
Qt version: 4.8.6
Coin version: 4.0.0a
OCC version: 7.2.0
Locale: English/UnitedStates (en_US)

Russ
User avatar
HarryGeier
Posts: 594
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:36 pm
Location: Hof Germany

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby HarryGeier » Thu May 24, 2018 5:17 am

russ_hensel wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am

So I downloaded this to see if I could learn some release .17. But I do not get it!
look into the padonface.mp4



https://my.hidrive.com/share/qr3l1yddy6#$/

i will add voice soon and release on youtube...
Last edited by HarryGeier on Thu May 24, 2018 6:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Kaum macht man´s richtig , gehts´s
My Video Tutorials on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoe3B ... p8Q/videos
My FreeCAD Stuff on Hidrive: https://my.hidrive.com/share/qr3l1yddy6#$/
chrisb
Posts: 10339
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:14 am

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby chrisb » Thu May 24, 2018 6:14 am

russ_hensel wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am
I thought both pad and pocket required a sketch
That is where you are wrong. You can pad a flat face directly. Try the following:
- Create a body
- create a primitive cube
- select one side of the cube
- click on "Pad"

Result the selected side gets padded right away.
GeneFC
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:36 pm
Location: Punta Gorda, FL

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby GeneFC » Thu May 24, 2018 2:05 pm

russ_hensel wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am
So could someone tell me what I am missing?
What you are missing is that the capability is limited. The "sketch" is the outline shape of the face that is selected. If that is what you want, great. If not, you need to add a sketch.

The direct pad and pocket probably do not do anything useful on a simple cube, but they may be useful on more complex shapes such as the polygonal prism in the example quoted.

Gene
russ_hensel
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:34 am
Location: Dartmouth Mass, USA
Contact:

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby russ_hensel » Thu May 24, 2018 4:14 pm

HarryGeier wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 5:17 am
russ_hensel wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am

So I downloaded this to see if I could learn some release .17. But I do not get it!
look into the padonface.mp4



https://my.hidrive.com/share/qr3l1yddy6#$/

i will add voice soon and release on youtube...
Very useful. I think I get it now, the edges of the face act as the sketch, yes?

Thanks
russ_hensel
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:34 am
Location: Dartmouth Mass, USA
Contact:

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby russ_hensel » Thu May 24, 2018 4:16 pm

GeneFC wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 2:05 pm
russ_hensel wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:10 am
So could someone tell me what I am missing?
What you are missing is that the capability is limited. The "sketch" is the outline shape of the face that is selected. If that is what you want, great. If not, you need to add a sketch.

The direct pad and pocket probably do not do anything useful on a simple cube, but they may be useful on more complex shapes such as the polygonal prism in the example quoted.

Gene
Got it thanks.

Russ
GrantRobertson
Posts: 31
Joined: Sat May 19, 2018 11:41 pm
Contact:

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby GrantRobertson » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:57 pm

I can't tell if this thread is about the Part Design workbench that is currently available in the latest release of 0.17 (Version: 0.17.13528) or if it is about some version (that will still be called 0.17) that is still in development.

If these features are now out of development and in the release version, could you please lock this thread and edit the original post to reflect that A) The discussed features are now in the production version and B) Some of the features discussed here my not match the production version exactly because the posts were written while 0.17 was still in development.

Thank you.
GeneFC
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:36 pm
Location: Punta Gorda, FL

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby GeneFC » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:07 am

Unlike some forums, locking a thread is pretty uncommon around here. What purpose would it serve?

The discussion here is a running history of concerns and recommendations as version 0.17 was being developed. If you want the current recommendations for the release version of 0.17 the best place to look is the wiki. A lot of work went into updating the many pages in the wiki when 0.17 was released.

Essentially all of the surviving ideas in this topic have been captured in the wiki. The obsolete or incorrect ideas were discarded.

Pre-digested for the user. :lol:

Gene
User avatar
NormandC
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:52 pm
Location: Québec, Canada

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby NormandC » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:24 pm

Actually, maybe it is time to unpin this topic and let it slide into semi-oblivion. It is linked from the PartDesign Workbench page anyway (in the Links section).

Thankfully, the term "Part Design Next" is no longer in use. After all, v0.17 just re-introduced PartDesign as it was always intended.
GeneFC
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:36 pm
Location: Punta Gorda, FL

Re: FC v0.17dev: Part Design Next Usecases and Best practices

Postby GeneFC » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:41 pm

+1

I was going to suggest unpinning, when I realized I would be guilty of the same "control mentality" I was complaining about. :lol:

Gene