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crownfield
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby crownfield » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:37 pm

crownfield wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:33 pm
I will check that carefully.
you may have solved my problems.
your tree seems to show exactly what I wanted to do.

(freecad can have a hundred different ways to get somewhere.)

I just can not tell how you got there.
I can not tell what workbench you are using,
and I do not see yellow and blue stair step icons.

I really believe this should be easy,
but the interface keeps losing me.

there is no intuitive structure to the menu.
the interface needs to be designed so it is understandable,
not only the the professional designer and draftsman,
but to someone who knows what he wants.
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby TheMarkster » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:48 pm

I just can not tell how you got there.
I can not tell what workbench you are using,
and I do not see yellow and blue stair step icons.
You'll need 0.17 or 0.18.
My FreeCAD video series on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/mwganson
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby oldmachine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:00 am

First - syntax: I can't stand the syntax FreeCAD uses - it can be confusing to explain things to other... Who the hell else call an Extrusion a 'Pad' ?
Anyway,
Familiarity with FreeCAD/Toolbars should inform you that I used the PartDesign wb.
The Yellow and Blue stairsteps are the first icons on left.

I won't make this a long post - you should be familiar with:
Creating a New File.
Creating a New Part in the file (yellow stairstep). Remember, Part is not really a part, its a container for bodies which, are the real parts.
Select the Newly created Part and click the Blue staristep to create a new Body in the Part
(so,if making 5 gizmo's (5 actual parts), you want 5 bodies. All contained in One 'Part')

See what I mean about syntax? To be clearer:
New File = container for Parts
Parts = containers of bodies
Bodies = the actual gizmo parts.

Having said that:
Create a New File - save it Named as Assembly One
Create Two Parts in the File - One called Part_Nut_and_Bolt, the other called Part_Box_and_Lid
Create Two Bodies in each of the Parts just created. Name them...

Get the idea?
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby oldmachine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:37 am

This should help...
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby NormandC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:44 am

oldmachine wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:00 am
First - syntax: I can't stand the syntax FreeCAD uses - it can be confusing to explain things to other... Who the hell else call an Extrusion a 'Pad' ?
CATIA. http://catiadoc.free.fr/online/prtug_C2/prtugbt0501.htm
http://catiatutorial.blogspot.com/2008/ ... er-in.html

CATIA by Dassault Systèmes (which also owns Solidworks BTW) is one of the very few high-end commercial parametric modelers, widely used in the transportation industry (automotive, rail, aeronautics).

And also HeeksCAD, another open-source CAD program based on OCC which, for a time, was more advanced than FreeCAD; but which has now more or less stalled.

FreeCAD's founder Juergen Riegel had experience with CATIA at the company he worked for, and was quite fond of it. If he had been familiar with a mid-range parametric modeler instead, FreeCAD would probably be very different today.

Also, there was already an Extrude command in the Part workbench, so it made sense to use a different name.
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby oldmachine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:51 am

I was trained by CATIA, Pro-Engineer CadKey, Inventor. I don't remember the words "Pad", "Additive Pipe"... etc.
I worked in the Automotive, Medical and Rocket industry. I have patents and worked with Patent Attorneys - I don't remember anyone saying "Pad it", we said 'Extrude it".

You can call it what you want, IDGAF
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby NormandC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:54 am

oldmachine wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:51 am
I was trained by CATIA
And yet you never noticed how it was named in the software?

oldmachine wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:51 am
You can call it what you want, IDGAF
I was just replying to your rhetorical question with some historical context, and I was right - nevermind your memory. So why the hostility? And IDGAF about your stupid patents and your resume :roll:
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby crownfield » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:29 pm

TheMarkster wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:48 pm

You'll need 0.17 or 0.18.
and that will be my next step.
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby crownfield » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 pm

NormandC wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:54 am
I was just replying to your rhetorical question with some historical context, and I was right - nevermind your memory. So why the hostility? And IDGAF about your stupid patents and your resume :roll:
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no wonder people leave your forum.
you.
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Re: sketches, parts, subassemblies and final ...

Postby GeneFC » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:36 pm

crownfield wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 pm
no wonder people leave your forum
People who come here asking for help get a large number of useful, friendly responses.

People who come here screaming about all the problems with FreeCAD often get a cooler reception.

Check your very first post

https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic. ... 64#p259664

Which category do you think that post fits into? :roll:

Gene