[Fixed] Arch Frame with rotated edges

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[Fixed] Arch Frame with rotated edges

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Why longer edges of this frame are not oriented the same as shorter ones? How can I fix it?
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EDIT: Setting Rotation to 90° "flips" the problem.

OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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steelman wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:35 pm
it depends on the workplane, you can see it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzyHt2o5Hbs

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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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thomas-neemann wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:12 pm
I am afraid this video is about the structural element tool rather than the frame tool.

EDIT: Indeed, changing Axis and Angle of the profile element influences the orientation of the frame elements, however, I can't find values that would make all elements "look" the same.
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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steelman wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:23 pm
oh, sorry.

something doesn't seem to be going optimally. here is a suggestion for a workaround with 2 profiles
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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I am not a specialist in Arch but it seems to me that we cannot create a closed frame in this way
with the sketch "Frame" you can have a firm frame using "Wall" width 50 height 100
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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papyblaise wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:48 pm
thomas-neemann wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:46 pm

The problem is this. Here the profiles normal is aligned with the direction of an edge, but profiles y axis ("up") ends up pointing at rather random direction. With this pull request I am trying to fix this problem. There still remains the problem of improperly aligned ends that don't form proper joints, but that is another step.
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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I still don't understand, it's not that the question is obscure to me, it's probably my doing :!:
This is it :?:
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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papyblaise wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:33 am I still don't understand, it's not that the question is obscure to me, it's probably my doing :!:
This is it :?:
Nope. I am looking to make this.
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This is a single framing element. It can be a skeleton of a wall or (in my case a floor), just add thermal insulation and some sheet goods or siding et voilà! Of course this one still has improper joints. "Horizontal" (longer) edges should be 50 mm (2 * half the width of joists/studs) longer and vertical ones need to be shorter by the same amount.
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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Are you aware that there are add ons that deal specifically in these areas?

Try:-

frame, I notice timber is no longer maintained :( There was another which was for steel partitions but it appears not to be in add on manager, search the arch sub forum. You can also use Arch curtain wall.
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Re: Arch Frame with rotated edges

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steelman wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:56 am


is that a possibility for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsgcIRqpXMA

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