[solved] (Dangerous) behavior from the sketcher

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Re: Dangerous behavior from the sketcher

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If you alway make your sketches fully constrained, there is nothing dangerous. If you don't, there is always some increased potential for dangerous things.
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thomas-neemann wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:21 pm That's right, but I felt like I was far out of the window and told my customers that it was reliable. it is enough for me to switch off the circle with e points. i change the title
I don't know what's the context of your business and who are your customers, but feeding them with development version is IMO a harmful choice. ;)
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openBrain wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:24 pm
thomas-neemann wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:21 pm That's right, but I felt like I was far out of the window and told my customers that it was reliable. it is enough for me to switch off the circle with e points. i change the title
I don't know what's the context of your business and who are your customers, but feeding them with development version is IMO a harmful choice. ;)
my customers have version 0.19 stable, but that is not yet "1.0"

at 0.19 there is the same problem
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OK I looked at the video (several times) and now I think I understand. Probably there was some wrong terms used in the OP.
Actually the problem is : "3-point circle geometry does not correctly handle automatic constraining at creation time".
In the video, no automatic constraint is proposed with axis (while they are highlighted) - should be point-on-line -, and point-on-line is proposed with root point - should be coincident -.
Did I get it right?
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chrisb wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:23 pm If you alway make your sketches fully constrained, there is nothing dangerous. If you don't, there is always some increased potential for dangerous things.
I did that afterwards, but that didn't remove the error. you don't even notice it because you don't know the size of the step reference.
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openBrain wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:31 pm OK I looked at the video (several times) and now I think I understand. Probably there was some wrong terms used in the OP.
Actually the problem is : "3-point circle geometry does not correctly handle automatic constraining at creation time".
In the video, no automatic constraint is proposed with axis (while they are highlighted) - should be point-on-line -, and point-on-line is proposed with root point - should be coincident -.
Did I get it right?

i work with a translator. I guess we don't have any more misunderstandings now.
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Re: (Dangerous) behavior from the sketcher

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thomas-neemann wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:35 pm i work with a translator. I guess we don't have any more misunderstandings now.
Ok. IMO it's always good to add a notice on bottom of a post that is automatically translated. ;)
Now we are clear, there is indeed a bug (at least on your video, didn't try to reproduce yet).
On the technical side, this is just an inconvenience. But on the user side this is really a significant malfunction as one would probably not pay attention to that and then get weird results.
As soon as one will confirm, please somebody create a ticket.
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Re: (Dangerous) behavior from the sketcher

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I had it already mentioned in the German forum: It works on macOS correctly.

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chrisb wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:14 pm I had it already mentioned in the German forum: It works on macOS correctly.
do you (or someone else) know whether freecad works under mac os in the virtualbox
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Re: (Dangerous) behavior from the sketcher

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I'm really struggling to see how the auto constraints can work in one OS and not in the other two, I've found one set of inconsistent coding between the 3 point arc and 3 point circle and my Linux compiled build now allows coincident constraints to be picked from vertices as expected in the 3 point circle but more burrowing is required to fix everything.
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