Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Do not look at Placement, but Attachment.
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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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chrisb wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:25 pm
Roland wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:19 pm How about this solution?
It's the same as Willem's solution made with Part workbench.
It is not the same, Chris.
And I am afraid that Willem's solution is incorrect. See my remark somewhere lower in this thread as a response to Willem.

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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Shalmeneser wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:26 pm Do not look at Placement, but Attachment.
Well, that Attachment is wrong as it intersects with the origin!
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So, I agree with you: we need a datumplane. At least one.

And if you want to use the Groove feature, you need also to find the axis around which to sweep the sketch, and that axis is NOT the Z axis of this model.
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Perhaps this illustration helps to better grasp the matter:
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See also the comment by Papyblaise.

I am trying some more potential solutions inside Part Design. So far I could only manage with a combination of Part Design ad Part.

Happy modelling!

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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Sketch002 : Support : DatumPlane(000)
DatumPlane(000) :
* Support : YZ_Plane
* Attachment : Y angle = 45°
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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Roland wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:34 pm
TheMarkster wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:22 pm Could be there are better or more efficient ways to do it.
Markster, I think that your solution is wrong because what should have been a circular cylindrical surface is actually an elliptical cyclinder. This is because you sweep a circle along an angled direction.

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I see what you mean. Yes, it is not a circle.
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Edit: but looking at the original picture it appears it could be elliptical. It is hard to say from the image.
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TheMarkster wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:53 pm I see what you mean. Yes, it is not a circle.
Seems like that is very easy to remedy. Just make two profile sketches at the correct angles instead of trying to make do with one in the middle.

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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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GeneFC wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:59 pm
TheMarkster wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:53 pm I see what you mean. Yes, it is not a circle.
Seems like that is very easy to remedy. Just make two profile sketches at the correct angles instead of trying to make do with one in the middle.

Gene
Yes, that would be the way to do it, assuming you want circles for those faces. I'm not yet convinced that is what the original is depicting.
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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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Hi

Do you think I got it?

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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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If someone can do without the Datum plane ...
See the solution of hpbmo
I was going to offer you another one, but it's useless, it's up to you to invent one
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Re: Freecad Idomatic Method for Radial Cylindrical Cutouts

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hpbmo wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 am Do you think I got it?
Almost. Fillets which consume the whole adjacent face and touch the thext edge frequently fail. So I'm afraid this solution works just here.
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