FreeCAD BIM Doors become Windows in the tree

[ubiquity]

Started a very simple building in BIM workbench but after erecting walls and choosing to insert doors they all became windows.
I imagine this is a simple issue but one I can't fathom. This seems to happen in both Master and Link3 branches

OS: Linux Mint 19.3 (X-Cinnamon/cinnamon)
Word size of OS: 64-bit
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 2021.717.24301 +3627 (Git) AppImage
Build type: Release
Branch: LinkStage3
Hash: f63a5ea7b459872a3798027df0ff25e776524859
Python version: 3.9.6
Qt version: 5.12.9
Coin version: 4.0.1
OCC version: 7.5.2
Locale: English/Australia (en_AU)

[thomas-neemann]

you can upload a demo file?

[ubiquity]

Hi Thomas,
Here is the file I started in Link Branch (it does the same in Master) although I don't think the file will be much assistance.
The only difference between Door and Window tools seems to be the default size. They both place an element labelled Window in the walls.
Cheers
Paul

[Roy_043]

IMO there is nothing wrong with the behavior. It is a design choice. In the BIM WB a separate tool is available to place doors but that is just for convenience.

[thomas-neemann]

hallo paul

without bim workbench (with arch) it seems to work. is that a solution for you?

[ubiquity]

Roy 043,
You feel having two tools that produce the same output, except for default size, is appropriate?
The first thing my students will ask me is "Why does it do that?"
The second will be "Why can't it produce a label Door for the Door tool?"

Thanks Thomas,
Tonight I don't see a Door option in FreeCAD Link Branch Arch workbench or do you mean I should add that tool from BIM into Arch?
I know it used to be there in Master in 0.17 so I will check when I have access tomorrow.

[Roy_043]

... The Door tool in the BIM WB is just there to store a 2nd user preference. You can also place windows with the tool, and doors with the Windows tool if you want. So maybe the name of the tool is a bit confusing.

What are your thoughts about French windows in this context...

[ubiquity]

Yes it is rather confusing.
French doors are very suitable, unfortunately the structure we are building is a rolled steel clad shed with roller doors!

[paullee]

I have not used BIM often, though noted BIM distinguish Doors and Windows, whilst under the hood it is basically Arch Windows.

Maybe ping @yorik to further discuss this, or more to Draft, Arch & BIM sub-forum for more exposure to discuss ?Would like

[ubiquity]

Thanks all.
I had followed the Arch tutorial years ago and now, returning to it I can see that using the presets in the window option does produce the desired result of a component in the tree named Door, although the labelling of other attributes is now in what looks like Portuguese. The native depth is 0.0 and altering it to the depth of the wall seems to fail to create the hole. Perhaps I am missing something else fundamental here but to me it is not intuitive.