Is Python3.9 planned for FreeCAD0.20

[looo]

To those who want to have win/py3.9 it's best to try the conda-package-manager. We build freecad for py3.9 and Py3.8 weekly but only make a py38.8 bundle available.

[Petrikas]

To those who want to have win/py3.9 it's best to try the conda-package-manager. We build freecad for py3.9 and Py3.8 weekly but only make a py38.8 bundle available.

Thanks, got it working through Conda. -- if anyone needs help, feel free to contact me through the forum or otherwise.

Still think FreeCAD shouldn't get bogged down by something that's outdated and deprecated.

[GeneFC]

Still think FreeCAD shouldn't get bogged down by something that's outdated and deprecated.

Let them eat cake.

[Edit] I should have added:

OS: Windows 10 Version 2009
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
Version: 0.20.24986 (Git)
Build type: Release
Branch: master
Hash: ff6845e2f31988cc714027980e0100bb5521843e
Python version: 3.8.6+
Qt version: 5.15.2
Coin version: 4.0.1
OCC version: 7.5.0
Locale: English/United States (en_US)

This is not personal for me.

Gene

[Petrikas]

Still think FreeCAD shouldn't get bogged down by something that's outdated and deprecated.

Let them eat cake.

No need for this facetiousness, we're having a discussion.

This obsession with supporting obsolete OS and essentially blocking interop with Blender is not a matter of 'greed'.
People who refuse to upgrade to Win10 (which objectively outperforms Win7, even on older machines) out of stubbornness would always have older FreeCAD builds to fall back on.

Yorik has done an amazing job with FreeCAD importer for Blender, but that won't work for an average user. So they have to use obj and stl. Those two lose hierarchy, scale, naming, etc.

Sverchok is an amazing Blender add-on that can potentially fuse Solid and Surface modelling also won't work due to Python mismatches.

Not upgrading is blocking some very strong workflows that could bring users in. Unfortunately, when I asked how I move between Blender and FreeCAD, I'm left to answer that "it's complicated".

In my opinion, the time to drop support for an OS is when the OS support is dropped by its makers.

[user1234]

Just said: very old 32bit machines and OS can be named as deprecated and obsolete, since you can get a 64bit machine used for really nothing. But
not actual != deprecated
. Python 3.8 is not the newest, but not deprecated. If you really want to use FreeCAD with python 3.9, just compile it. It is easy.

Greetings
user1234

[Petrikas]

Just said: very old 32bit machines and OS can be named as deprecated and obsolete, since you can get a 64bit machine used for really nothing. But
not actual != deprecated
. Python 3.8 is not the newest, but not deprecated. If you really want to use FreeCAD with python 3.9, just compile it. It is easy.

Greetings
user1234

As far as my understanding goes, I can only use Conda to get a py3.9 build, currently, as there is no libpack with 3.9?

I never said 3.8 was deprecated. I said Windows 7 is, which is true. Win 7 is currently as deprecated as any other windows version before it. And you don't consider XP or Me users, because they all upgraded their machines + OSes.

[user1234]

I do not know which OS you use, but on Debian 11 there are the python 3.9 libraries. I do not install metapackages (or libraries bundles), since they only makes a mess.

I never said 3.8 was deprecated.

OK. But this was i make out this. But to be honest, i did not read all, sorry for that.


Greetings
user1234

[rendetto]

I did a short tutorial over installing the Conda build here:
https://github.com/nortikin/sverchok/issues/4131

It also includes a short how-to for setting up Sverchok.

Sverchok is an amazing Blender add-on that can potentially fuse Solid and Surface modelling...

Practically Sverchok already fused Solid with Surface modelling. The problems are the steep learning curve and the painful workflow.
However, the whole effort pays off.

[Petrikas]

I did a short tutorial over installing the Conda build here:
https://github.com/nortikin/sverchok/issues/4131

It also includes a short how-to for setting up Sverchok.

Argh! If only I had this yesterday. Had to figure that out myself. I went a slightly different path by just running python=3.9.2 in conda, with the install instruction. That seemed to also work.

Dropping this here in case anyone needs it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCs8xlrw2nM
Skip to 2:02 for FreeCAD Conda installation

[keithsloan52]

I would like to try out some Blender bpy module functions and I am on Mac, so going to ask @realthunder if there is any chance he could build his FreeCAD Daily with Python 3.9