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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby keithsloan52 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:11 am

vocx wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:30 pm
kkremitzki wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:18 pm
Good point, gmsh for example provides a citation on their homepage if you end up using it in your research: http://gmsh.info/
What this means is that the big guys, Werner, Yorik, Jürgen, maybe somebody else, should get together and write a small paper of two pages or so, that we can publish in an open source journal and then we can cite.
Yes put on https://arxiv.org/ that is where all pre-publish paper and papers are first put at no charge. You can often find papers there that end up in the big journals, just without the emphasis on arXiv info but same title authors etc. Then put citation information on the home page and info page when application starts. It does not cost anything to also use https://zenodo.org/
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby bernd » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:11 am

very interesting point in the regard of citations guys. We should open a new separate topic to get this on track.

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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby keithsloan52 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:27 am

ulrich1a wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:54 pm
vocx wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:30 pm
we can publish in an open source journal and then we can cite.
Actually the world is more electronically and does not need a paper for a citation. The rules for technical citations are defined in ISO 690. The section 5.1 describes how to cite computer programs. See here: http://paedpsych.jk.uni-linz.ac.at/inte ... SO690.html

Ulrich
But how many paper authors follow such a standard? You are reliant on the Author knowing the Standard and more importantly making the initiative to cite a program used. FreeCAD has been mentioned In a number of papers related to Geant4/ROOT etc where they have used a standalone script to produce an STL or Obj from a STEP file. Maybe wrong but not aware of any of them citing FreeCAD.

See also this post https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic. ... =4&t=24498

If I google Cite FreeCAD I am not getting any good hits
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby ulrich1a » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:36 pm

keithsloan52 wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:27 am
But how many paper authors follow such a standard?
All I wanted to say, there exist citing styles, which allow to cite software directly without the need of a corresponding paper. So we can go forward and request proper citation on the FreeCAD website, in order to avoid only mentioned in the text as in this paper for example:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/3D- ... _320498867

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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby keithsloan52 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:42 pm

ulrich1a wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:36 pm
keithsloan52 wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:27 am
But how many paper authors follow such a standard?
All I wanted to say, there exist citing styles, which allow to cite software directly without the need of a corresponding paper. So we can go forward and request proper citation on the FreeCAD website, in order to avoid only mentioned in the text as in this paper for example:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/3D- ... _320498867

Ulrich
Sorry confused as the link you supply is to a paper. Are you trying to say possibilities are things like RIS, BibTex, Plain Text

Would love to be able to supply citing information without a paper as I find writing papers very hard.
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby vocx » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm

ulrich1a wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:54 pm
Actually the world is more electronically and does not need a paper for a citation...
Of course, but at the same time, having a paper would be nice. FreeCAD is an impressive tool of engineering, so it would be worth having more formal documentation about it.

There are already a couple of papers written in part about FreeCAD, Scientific_literature. I think having such paper from the main developers would be quite nice.
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby Jee-Bee » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:49 am

vocx wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm
... Scientific_literature...
another topic on the wiki what is impossible to find without external search engines :(
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby vocx » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:56 am

Jee-Bee wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:49 am
another topic on the wiki what is impossible to find without external search engines :(
Indeed. I mean, I created that page barely a month ago, so it's not like it has a ton of reputation yet. At the moment it is in the Power users hub, but surely a better place could be found for it. We should probably revive the FreeCAD_Community_Portal for additional information that doesn't quite fit inside the main categories for users, power users, and developers.
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby fandaL » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:41 am

vocx wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:52 pm
... Scientific_literature...
Good to have a page like this. Later, we can add a link to there from the main FreeCAD page.

I would recommend to follow some citation style (there is plenty of them). It is really easy to generate citations by citation managers (e.g. https://zbib.org/ ).

Sure, there is growing number of literature mentioning “freecad”, e.g. sciencedirect.com gives me 168 results. I just copied-paste first two URLs to citation manager, selected citation style “Chicago Manual of Style” and got:

Li, Jin-Yang, Long Gu, Hu-Shan Xu, Yong Dai, You-Peng Zhang, Rui Yu, Lu Zhang, Da-Wei Wang, and Wei Jiang. “FreeCAD Based Monte Carlo Modeling Approach for Fusion Reactor Facilities.” Fusion Engineering and Design 155 (June 1, 2020): 111711. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.fusengdes.2020.111711.

Li, Jin-Yang, Long Gu, Hu-Shan Xu, Nadezda Korepanova, Wei Jiang, Xin Sheng, Yan-Lei Zhu, and Rui Yu. “FreeCAD Based Modeling Study on MCNPX for Accelerator Driven System.” Progress in Nuclear Energy 107 (August 1, 2018): 100–109. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pnucene.2018.04.015.


Which are papers related to fusion reactor development :shock: .

It is even possible to make a scientific research about open source CADs and the communities:

Castro, Hélio, Goran Putnik, Alrenice Castro, and Rodrigo Dal Bosco Fontana. “Open Design Initiatives: An Evaluation of CAD Open Source Software.” Procedia CIRP, 29th CIRP Design Conference 2019, 08-10 May 2019, Póvoa de Varzim, Portgal, 84 (January 1, 2019): 1116–19. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.procir.2019.08.001.

However, they compared number of downloads only from sourcefourge, missing that FreeCAD has moved to github :? .
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Re: FreeCAD on the web

Postby vocx » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:31 pm

fandaL wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:41 am
Good to have a page like this. Later, we can add a link to there from the main FreeCAD page.
...
I created that page because those articles have been cited many times in this forum. I don't see other papers regularly mentioned in the forum, and I also don't go out of my way to find more papers. So I just decided to make a small list of recurrently cited papers, but I also don't feel like filling it with just about every paper that mentions "freecad"; in my opinion, that would dilute the effort, it's best to pick some select papers.
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