If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
tl,dr, because of not time. It is a regression.
Holes with points was working before (when they was normal geometry, no invisible internal geometry).
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Holes with points was working before (when they was normal geometry, no invisible internal geometry).
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
I can't remember this either.
Points were never exposed in any version before 0.19. In 0.19 Points cannot be used as centers of holes. So it must have been somewhere in the 0.20 dev cycle.
Points were never exposed in any version before 0.19. In 0.19 Points cannot be used as centers of holes. So it must have been somewhere in the 0.20 dev cycle.
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
Around 2 to 1 year ago. There was her a discussion about a rectangle sketch, where the points should be holes with that. I do not find it, because the forum search tool ignores 4 form 5 words. I have not time atm to do a good search. Maybe alter.
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
https://www.qwant.com/?q=hole+point+rec ... cadweb.org
Sketch points are only usable since abdullah implementation and he said then :
Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
If I may toss in my 2 c., I think bambuko captured ideal workflows here. As a recent FreeCAD immigrant from other CAD, I would expect these 2 use cases to be fairly straightforward to execute. Slightly modifying bambuko's version (I don't understand the need to sketch independent points):adrianinsaval wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:04 pm bambuko wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 5:31 am
so:
1 - create sketch with just points > use hole tool > confirm points as a source > use hole tool as it is at the moment
2 - create sketch with just dimensioned circles > use hole tool > select "circles" as source > use hole tool with circle diameter as a hole diameter
and everybody is happy (apart from confused ones )
there are some problems with this, first the backwards compatibility problem, it
1- Hole tool allows attachment to any point in the sketch (or 3d view) which is already defined as corners, intersections, center points, etc. Hole feature has it's own diameter prop.
2- Hole tool allows attachment to any circle on the sketch. Hole feautre follows sketch circle diameter, which imo is intuitive expectation, and reflects user intention to drive it's geometry from the sketch, like most other PD solids.
I understand (for the most part) the technical difficulties mentioned to implement this, but I also understand that there is some serious problem-solving talent in the FC Dev Team.
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
Maybe i am the one with the bad memory, at least in that case.adrianinsaval wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 6:31 pm when was this the case? I've been around since at least 0.17 and I don't remember this, of course I could be just having bad memory
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Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
I've been working on this a bit, gotten a draft of the feature working. Seems to require a lot of modifications to make work smoothly. I got it to include all vertices, but need to sort out individual points versus the vertices in things like rectangles and circles. Learning lots, and it's a good break from the copy/paste stuff.
Re: If the hole tool allows to set a diameter, why using a sketch with just a point does not work?
A point currently requires two actions: 1.) create it, 2.) take it out of construction mode (which is - with good reason - the point default).
A circle only needs one single action (although two - fast - clicks are involved as well). If the point would be allowed additionally, I wouldn't care.
A circle only needs one single action (although two - fast - clicks are involved as well). If the point would be allowed additionally, I wouldn't care.
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