[Poll] Remove 'Copy' 'Cut' 'Paste' 'Print' icons from toolbar.

[jake]

I think the best ways of implementing complexity that I have seen in FOSS software are Slic3r/Prusa Slicer, and KiCAD. Slic3r/Prusa Slicer's three level "Beginner/Intermediate/Expert" global settings to help users at all levels seems to work very well in practice. KiCAD was completely restructured around version 4.0 a few years ago and the interface is amazing. I can stop using KiCAD for several months, come back and pick back up right where I left off as a hobbyist. Making schematics, laying out a PCB, everything flows intuitively. IIRC a retired human interface specialist dev previously from Adobe came in and reworked everything in KiCAD. I feel like something similar is really needed in FreeCAD. The problem is much more than a few buttons IMO. The only place basic file menu features belong on a toolbar is on a "Beginner" tier type of global setting. The same applies to edge use case buttons, they should be in some out-of-the-way place like a drop down menu. Just don't do the mainly memorized hotkey workflow thing like Blender. Every time I use Blender it is like learning from scratch. It seems like I must either use it full time or not at all. Maybe I am biased but the copy, cut, and paste hotkeys are as ubiquitous as the names of the actions they represent. Really every classic File/Edit menu option should be left in the File/Edit menu.

[GeneFC]

conforms to the preference of small portion of people

Precisely demonstrates my point.

Gene

[adrianinsaval]

conforms to the preference of small portion of people

Precisely demonstrates my point.

Nice deflection of my actual point...

so please do tell why we should leave it there where it takes space [..] instead of moving to a different toolbar where all of us can have what we want? That's why IMO option "no" has no value, it solves nothing.

[chennes]

@adrianinsaval has a issue #7620 that splits up the toolbar, and re-enables cut/copy/paste as visible by default. My read of the original discussion here was that this new "clipboard" toolbar would be disabled by default, with the idea that most users continue to benefit from the simplification of the toolbar, but power users who like to have these buttons in the toolbar can easily add them back in. I don't mind the proposed reversion if it's what is really intended (I don't feel that strongly either way, though I never use the toolbar buttons for those actions myself), but that wasn't my read of the consensus here.

[adrianinsaval]

Honestly I didn't disable it because I don't know how, if you have an idea on how to disable by default without adding some obscure parameter I'm happy to add that to the PR

[easyw-fc]

any news on having the optional copy paste toolbar?
ATM it has simply disappeared.

[adrianinsaval]

I had made a PR https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/7620, but don't know how to make it off by default which seems to be desired, @chennes did you by any chance find a way to make this toolbar off by default?

[chennes]

I think you need to set its "Active" parameter to False.

[adrianinsaval]

I did not find an "Active" parameter but I found another way of getting this behavior, the changes where pushed to the PR

PS: should we add the Duplicate Selection command to this new Clipboard toolbar? (in a follow up PR)