Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by jidoeuf » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:32 pm

yorik wrote:This makes it hard to know which one is "front" and which one is "right side"...
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I think we could rotate that cube slightly,so there is one face that is more frontal than the other, what do you think?
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This cube is confusing.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by agryson » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:48 pm

yorik wrote:I think we could rotate that cube slightly,so there is one face that is more frontal than the other, what do you think?
That is easy enough, and is closer to what was there before. I'll try to have something by the end of the week.

As for the save icon, i agree that better could be found, but this project's goal was to avoid total redesigns and to focus on alignment.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by triplus » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:56 pm

yorik wrote:There is also another problem I think: The different view icons (front, top, left, right, etc), are now fully isometric. This makes it hard to know which one is "front" and which one is "right side"...

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I think we could rotate that cube slightly,so there is one face that is more frontal than the other, what do you think?
Nice!

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by agryson » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:54 pm

yorik wrote:I think we could rotate that cube slightly,so there is one face that is more frontal than the other, what do you think?
How's this?
I turned the view icons to more clearly indicate front/left etc.
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For the wireframe, shaded, axonometric etc, I left as they were since there was no issue of left/front.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by jidoeuf » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:52 pm

agryson wrote:How's this?
I turned the view icons to more clearly indicate front/left etc.
It's better, but instead of a cube maybe you could use a rectangular cuboid?
Like you did in TechDraw WB:
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agryson wrote:For the wireframe, shaded, axonometric etc, I left as they were since there was no issue of left/front.
For axonometric view, you could use the rectangular cuboid from TechDraw WB
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To avoid confusing view rotations and draw styles, I think we should have a different set of icons for draw styles.
Here is an example for wireframe and flat lines:
draw_styles.png

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by yorik » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:46 pm

agryson wrote:How's this?
I turned the view icons to more clearly indicate front/left etc.
Perfect!

I liked more these cubes than the cuboid actually... The cube seems more "neutral" than the cuboid which seems to refer to a shape to me... So cube woudl mean view, cuboid would mean shape... Don't know if that makes any sense...

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by agryson » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:22 pm

yorik wrote:I liked more these cubes than the cuboid actually... The cube seems more "neutral" than the cuboid which seems to refer to a shape to me... So cube woudl mean view, cuboid would mean shape... Don't know if that makes any sense...
Great, PR submitted.
I understand, a cuboid suggests there's a reason one side is longer than the other, while a cube is more neutral.

The reason I did it like that in Techdraw is because the original icons were unambiguously cuboids, but I would have preferred cubes personally speaking.
jidoeuf wrote:To avoid confusing view rotations and draw styles, I think we should have a different set of icons for draw styles.
Here is an example for wireframe and flat lines:
I love this idea. The addition of the sphere makes the wireframe mode much more explicit. This would render any documentation incompatible however - where are we on pinning a date on 0.17? Last I heard we were waiting on the massive work of assembly / new part design.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by sgrogan » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:54 pm

agryson wrote:I love this idea. The addition of the sphere makes the wireframe mode much more explicit. This would render any documentation incompatible however - where are we on pinning a date on 0.17? Last I heard we were waiting on the massive work of assembly / new part design.
I like the draw style idea as well.
I think there is no way to consider a release until after the end of GSoC, depending on what project(s) are chosen.

I think the documentation issue is going to be a very difficult problem. Many things are changing in 0.17, while we must support the current 0.16 release. For example the Part Design (FEM, Path) documentation for 0.16 and 0.17 is going to be drastically different. I think the wiki guys are using sandbox pages to start. To think that a feature freeze of a few weeks before the 0.17 release will allow the documentation to catch up seems unrealistic. I don't have a suggestion for a solution though. The changes in 0.17 are going to be drastic. The forum regulars have been consistent warning users the implications of using the dev version.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by agryson » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:10 pm

sgrogan wrote: I don't have a suggestion for a solution though. The changes in 0.17 are going to be drastic.
Yeah, there's some pretty major changes... I'll hang around the wiki a bit more and see what's going on in the sandboxes.

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Re: Core FreeCAD icons aligned to guidelines

Post by NormandC » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:54 pm

sgrogan wrote:To think that a feature freeze of a few weeks before the 0.17 release will allow the documentation to catch up seems unrealistic. I don't have a suggestion for a solution though.
Agreed on the first part.

As for second part, Kurt (kkremitzki) suggested use of namespaces. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces

Can't find hist post, it may not have been in the wiki forum. We need to create such a discussion over there...

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