[SOLUTIONS - for workflows ] HowTo:

[ppemawm]

If I understand it right this is meant for beginners...

I too would not recommend this post for beginners. I appreciate the effort, but IMO the directions are overly complex, not logical, cursory, and hardly understandable by even experienced users. If I was a new user and saw this post it would probably scare me away.

There are better guidelines in the Wiki. Remember that only 10% of the software is required for 90%
of the tasks in basic parametric modelling. It is only that 10% that should be in focus.

[Smiling_user]

[CONSIDERING GIVEN RECOMMENDATIONS]:
1. I would rename the topic to kind of " Workflows and solutions registry"
2. Reformat and rename posts and after that rework the header topic.
3. I feel that there is a need to form a general "map of difficult use-cases" (with the respected help of the Community), and then to reformat the 4.5 4. header post to relevancy with it.
5. Maybe, start a parallel topic that will contain only the essence about work-flows and solutions. But all public questions and comments will be made in this thread.


There are general areas where difficulties arise:
1. lack of the geometry concept knowledge/comprehension
2. not intuitive usage of FC tools
3. lack of elementary knowledge about FC (not read, not understood by user, not documented )
4. workaround needed due to absence of an "elementary" tool for natural geometry operation.
5. FC program bugs[/list]

As Roy_043 suggested - have tried to use tags, but what I got is...

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[Roy_043]

As Roy_043 suggested

If you quote my message you can see how it works. You have to use the '*' button or type '[*]' to start a new list item.

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[drmacro]

[CONSIDERING GIVEN RECOMMENDATIONS]:
1. I would rename the topic to kind of " Workflows and solutions registry"
2. Reformat and rename posts and after that rework the header topic.
3. I feel that there is a need to form a general "map of difficult use-cases" (with the respected help of the Community), and then to reformat the 4.5 4. header post to relevancy with it.
5. Maybe, start a parallel topic that will contain only the essence about work-flows and solutions. But all public questions and comments will be made in this thread.


There are general areas where difficulties arise:
1. lack of the geometry concept knowledge/comprehension
2. not intuitive usage of FC tools
3. lack of elementary knowledge about FC (not read, not understood by user, not documented )
4. workaround needed due to absence of an "elementary" tool for natural geometry operation.
5. FC program bugs[/list]

As Roy_043 suggested - have tried to use tags, but what I got is...

1. numbered line 1
   numbered line 2
   numbered line 3

• line 1
  line 2
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I'm sorry, but this doesn't change my previous comments and I agree with @ppemawm comments.

This may work for you, but I only see a large collection of random topics that would intimidate and confuse a new user. In addition, I agree with @christ and others that your descriptions, because you have decided to run a marathon before learning to stand, can be misleading.

This appears to be a list of your notes, that are perfectly clear to you, but are completely out of context for someone other than you.

Put it all in your own wiki page or a pdf and reference it if/when you see fit when answering questions by linking to specific pages/topics that address a specific question. And the pages/topics should clear explanation of the issue being addressed with simple examples showing the issue and further simple examples of the fix/workaround or proper procedures.

[Smiling_user]

Grateful for your replies and time spent...
Gone (from this topic) for digesting all the stuff for some time...

[Smiling_user]

[4. WB-Sketcher-works] // tested in FreeCAD 0.19_pre
TASK: guideline -> profile
1. Attaching sketch to entity
Have a sketch, select an edge, press [map a sketch to face] -> get a selection menu pop-up -> select sketch by name -> select attachment mode:
-- normal to edge
-- InertiaCS ( normal to the middle of edge)
Done: the sketch will be attached to the position of the edge
The edge can be any line: from sketcher, or Draft or an edge from body.
Work-Flow optimisation: no need to make repetitive sketching: make a copy of existing sketch and attach it to selected guideline.
Usage: use with Sweep(Part, PartDesign), Pad(PartDesign) -> get a profile, sweeped along the selected edge
See also: bidirectional Pad

2. Bidirectional Pad
If there is a sloped end of profile:
WBPartDesign:
-- attach a sketch to edge at intertiaCS (see description 1. in this post)
-- Pad Sketch "to face" one side
-- Select sketch from inside the first pad and Pad that Sketch "to Face" - to opposite side
-- If needed -> goto Object Properties refine:=true - this will remove the line of boundary between two pads.

## GOTO header post: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic. ... 09#p421709

[drmacro]

[4. WB-Sketcher-works] // tested in FreeCAD 0.19_pre
TASK: guideline -> profile
1. Attaching sketch to entity
Have a sketch, select an edge, press [map a sketch to face] -> get a selection menu pop-up -> select sketch by name -> select attachment mode:
-- normal to edge
-- InertiaCS ( normal to the middle of edge)
Done: the sketch will be attached to the position of the edge
The edge can be any line: from sketcher, or Draft or an edge from body.
Work-Flow optimisation: no need to make repetitive sketching: make a copy of existing sketch and attach it to selected guideline.
Usage: use with Sweep(Part, PartDesign), Pad(PartDesign) -> get a profile, sweeped along the selected edge
See also: bidirectional Pad

2. Bidirectional Pad
If there is a sloped end of profile:
WBPartDesign:
-- attach a sketch to edge at intertiaCS (see description 1. in this post)
-- Pad Sketch "to face" one side
-- Select sketch from inside the first pad and Pad that Sketch "to Face" - to opposite side
-- If needed -> goto Object Properties refine:=true - this will remove the line of boundary between two pads.

## GOTO header post: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic. ... 09#p421709

This has no context. It appears to be a bunch of personal notes that are clear to you, but anyone else has no reference to what your writing about.

[Smiling_user]

DrMarco,
Personal notes, clear to me that's right.
And they appear at no predicted order - as my experience goes.
Also, I not yet managed to reformat the heading...

But, why they these notes are not clear to anyone else - I do not understand yet.

I want this to become a short read-and-do reference to solutions.

The current vision of the final is approximately:
// Please, excuse, I stepped back from using list tags, for it is too time consuming.

TOC:
* How to make a guide-lines based construction
-- PartDesign approach (Bodies -> Sketches Planes -> Pad, Sweep, Loft )
-- A2Plus approach ( MasterFile of guide-Lines (sketches/Drafts) -> import to assembly file + import separate details )
-- Draft/Arch approach ( not yet clear to me... )
-- Flamingo/DODO approach ( not yet used in a workflow )
* How to make parametrized model
-- Calculations approach (Spreadsheet, DynamicData Object)
-- GuideLines approach
* Getting a 3D Body out of guide-lines
-- ...
-- ...
* Bodies modifications
-- Splitting bodies in parts
-- modifying the shape
-- boolean operations
* Positioning
-- modifying position
-- Snapping to objects ( GuideLines, other bodies etc.)
-- Positioning with A2Plus

* A2Plus Experience, proven practices.
--..
--..
--..

[vocx]

This has no context...

Can you please avoid quoting entire posts? You do it all the time and it's extremely annoying to read because one must scroll a lot to find the new answer.

[drmacro]

This has no context...

Can you please avoid quoting entire posts? You do it all the time and it's extremely annoying to read because one must scroll a lot to find the new answer.

It is extremely hard to delete the unnecessary junk on a tablet with fat fingers and small screen keyboard without clobbering the quote tags and having to start over. Even selecting a portion before quoting is frustratingly inaccurate.
I'm terribly sorry it bothers you, when I'm on a computer I try to delete the unnecessary stuff...but, I've been on tablet only this week.